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第3轮美国总统大选辩论英文全实录

2004第三轮美国总统大选辩论英文全实录

TheThirdBush-KerryPresidentialDebate

THIRDPRESIDENTIALCANDIDATES'DEBATEARIZONASTATEUNIVERSITY,TEMPE,ARIZONA

SPEAKERS:

GEORGEW.BUSHPRESIDENTOFTHEUNITEDSTATES

U.S.SENATORJOHNF.KERRY（MA）DEMOCRATICPRESIDENTIALNOMINEE

BOBSCHIEFFERCBSANCHOR

SCHIEFFER:

GoodeveningfromArizonaStateUniversityinTempe,Arizona.I'mBobSchiefferofCBSNews.Iwanttowelcomeyoutothethirdandlastofthe2004debatesbetweenPresidentGeorgeBushandSenatorJohnKerry.

AsJimLehrertoldyoubeforethefirstone,thesedebatesaresponsoredbytheCommissiononPresidentialDebates.

Tonightthetopicwillbedomesticaffairs,buttheformatwillbethesameasthatfirstdebate.I'llmoderateourdiscussionunderdetailedrulesagreedtobythecandidates,butthequestionsandtheareastobecoveredwerechosenbyme.Ihavenottoldthecandidatesoranyoneelsewhattheyare.

Torefreshyourmemoryontherules,Iwillaskaquestion.Thecandidateisallowedtwominutestoanswer.Hisopponentthenhasaminuteandahalftoofferarebuttal.

Atmydiscretion,Icanextendthediscussionbyofferingeachcandidateanadditional30seconds.

Agreenlightwillcomeontosignalthecandidatehas30secondsleft.Ayellowlightsignals15secondsleft.Aredlightmeansfivesecondsleft.

Thereisalsoabuzzer,ifitisneeded.

Thecandidatesmaynotquestioneachotherdirectly.Therearenoopeningstatements,buttherewillbetwo-minuteclosingstatements.

Thereisanaudienceheretonight,buttheyhaveagreedtoremainsilent,exceptforrightnow,whentheyjoinmeinwelcomingPresidentGeorgeBushandSenatorJohnKerry.

（APPLAUSE）

Gentlemen,welcometoyouboth.

Bycointoss,thefirstquestiongoestoSenatorKerry.

Senator,IwanttosetthestageforthisdiscussionbyaskingthequestionthatIthinkhangsoverallofourpoliticstodayandisprobablyonthemindsofmanypeoplewatchingthisdebatetonight.

Andthatis,willourchildrenandgrandchildreneverliveinaworldassafeandsecureastheworldinwhichwegrewup?

KERRY:

Well,firstofall,Bob,thankyouformoderatingtonight.

Thankyou,ArizonaState,forwelcomingus.

AndthankyoutothePresidentialCommissionforundertakingthisenormoustask.We'reproudtobehere.

Mr.President,I'mgladtobeherewithyouagaintosharesimilaritiesanddifferenceswiththeAmericanpeople.

Willweeverbesafeandsecureagain?

Yes.Weabsolutelymustbe.That'sthegoal.

Now,howdoweachieveitisthemostcriticalcomponentofit.

Ibelievethatthispresident,regrettably,rushedusintoawar,madedecisionsaboutforeignpolicy,

pushedalliancesaway.And,asaresult,Americaisnowbearingthisextraordinaryburdenwherewearenotassafeasweoughttobe.

Themeasurementisnot:

Arewesafer?

Themeasurementis:

Areweassafeasweoughttobe?

Andthereareahostofoptionsthatthispresidenthadavailabletohim,likemakingsurethatatallourportsinAmericacontainersareinspected.Only95percentofthem--95percentcomeintodayuninspected.That'snotgoodenough.

Peoplewhoflyonairplanestoday,thecargoholdisnotX-rayed,butthebaggageis.That'snotgoodenough.Firehousesdon'thaveenoughfirefightersinthem.PoliceofficersarebeingcutfromthestreetsofAmericabecausethepresidentdecidedtocuttheCOPSprogram.

Sowecandoabetterjobofhomelandsecurity.Icandoabetterjobofwagingasmarter,moreeffectivewaronterrorandguaranteethatwewillgoaftertheterrorists.

Iwillhuntthemdown,andwe'llkillthem,we'llcapturethem.We'lldowhateverisnecessarytobesafe.

ButIpledgethistoyou,America:

IwilldoitinthewaythatFranklinRooseveltandRonaldReaganandJohnKennedyandothersdid,wherewebuildthestrongestalliances,wheretheworldjoinstogether,wherewehavethebestintelligenceandwhereweareable,ultimately,tobemoresafeandsecure.

SCHIEFFER:

Mr.President,youhave90seconds.

BUSH:

Thankyouverymuch.

IwanttothankArizonaStateaswell.

Yes,wecanbesafeandsecure,ifwestayontheoffenseagainsttheterroristsandifwespreadfreedomandlibertyaroundtheworld.

IhavegotacomprehensivestrategytonotonlychasedowntheAlQaida,whereveritexists--andwe'remakingprogress;three-quartersofAlQaidaleadershavebeenbroughttojustice--buttomakesurethatcountriesthatharborterroristsareheldtoaccount.

AsaresultofsecuringourselvesandriddingtheTalibanoutofAfghanistan,theAfghanpeoplehadelectionsthisweekend.Andthefirstvoterwasa19-year-oldwoman.Thinkaboutthat.Freedomisonthemarch.

WeheldtoaccountaterroristregimeinSaddamHussein.

Inotherwords,inordertomakesurewe'resecure,theremustbeacomprehensiveplan.Myopponentjustthisweekendtalkedabouthowterrorismcouldbereducedtoanuisance,comparingittoprostitution,illegalgambling.Ithinkthatattitudeandthatpointofviewisdangerous.Idon'tthinkyoucansecureAmericaforthelongrunifyoudon'thaveacomprehensiveviewastohowtodefeatthesepeople.

Athome,we'lldoeverythingwecantoprotectthehomeland.Isignedthehomelandsecuritybilltobetteralignourassetsandresources.Myopponentvotedagainstit.

We'redoingeverythingwecantoprotectourbordersandports.

Butabsolutelywecanbesecureinthelongrun.Itjusttakesgood,strongleadership.

SCHIEFFER:

Anythingtoadd,SenatorKerry?

KERRY:

Yes.WhenthepresidenthadanopportunitytocaptureorkillOsamabinLaden,hetookhisfocusoffofthem,outsourcedthejobtoAfghanwarlords,andOsamabinLadenescaped.

SixmonthsafterhesaidOsamabinLadenmustbecaughtdeadoralive,thispresidentwasasked,"WhereisOsamabinLaden?

"Hesaid,"Idon'tknow.Idon'treallythinkabouthimverymuch.I'mnotthatconcerned."

Weneedapresidentwhostaysdeadlyfocusedontherealwaronterror.

SCHIEFFER:

Mr.President?

BUSH:

Gosh,Ijustdon'tthinkIeversaidI'mnotworriedaboutOsamabinLaden.It'skindofoneofthoseexaggerations.

Ofcoursewe'reworriedaboutOsamabinLaden.We'reonthehuntafterOsamabinLaden.We'reusingeveryassetatourdisposaltogetOsamabinLaden.

Myopponentsaidthiswarisamatterofintelligenceandlawenforcement.No,thiswarisamatterofusingeveryassetatourdisposaltokeeptheAmericanpeopleprotected.

SCHIEFFER:

Newquestion,Mr.President,toyou.

Wearetalkingaboutprotectingourselvesfromtheunexpected,butthefluseasonissuddenlyuponus.Flukillsthousandsofpeopleeveryyear.

Suddenlywefindourselveswithasevereshortageoffluvaccine.Howdidthathappen?

BUSH:

Bob,werelieduponacompanyoutofEnglandtoprovideabouthalfofthefluvaccinesfortheUnitedStatescitizen,anditturnedoutthatthevaccinetheywereproducingwascontaminated.Andsowetooktherightactionanddidn'tallowcontaminatedmedicineintoourcountry.We'reworkingwithCanadatohopefully--thatthey'llproducea--helpusrealizethevaccinenecessarytomakesureourcitizenshavegotfluvaccinationsduringthisupcomingseason.

MycalltoourfellowAmericansisifyou'rehealthy,ifyou'reyounger,don'tgetaflushotthisyear.Helpusprioritizethosewhoneedtogettheflushot,theelderlyandtheyoung.

TheCDC,responsibleforhealthintheUnitedStates,issettingthoseprioritiesandisallocatingthefluvaccineaccordingly.

Ihaven'tgottenaflushot,andIdon'tintendtobecauseIwanttomakesurethosewhoaremostvulnerablegettreated.

WehaveaproblemwithlitigationintheUnitedStatesofAmerica.Vaccinemanufacturersareworriedaboutgettingsued,andthereforetheyhavebackedofffromprovidingthiskindofvaccine.

OneofthereasonsI'msuchastrongbelieverinlegalreformissothatpeoplearen'tafraidofproducingaproductthatisnecessaryforthehealthofourcitizensandthenendupgettingsuedinacourtoflaw.

Butthebestthingwecandonow,Bob,giventhecircumstanceswiththecompanyinEnglandisforthoseofuswhoareyoungerandhealthy,don'tgetaflushot.

SCHIEFFER:

SenatorKerry?

KERRY:

ThisreallyunderscorestheproblemwiththeAmericanhealth-caresystem.It'snotworkingfortheAmericanfamily.Andit'sgottenworseunderPresidentBushoverthecourseofthelastyears.

FivemillionAmericanshavelosttheirhealthinsuranceinthiscountry.You'vegotaboutamillionrighthereinArizona,justshy,950,000,whohavenohealthinsuranceatall.82,000ArizonianslosttheirhealthinsuranceunderPresidentBush'swatch.223,000kidsinArizonahavenohealthinsuranceatall.

Allacrossourcountry--gotoOhio,1.4millionOhioanshavenohealthinsurance,114,000ofthemlostitunderPresidentBush;Wisconsin,82,000WisconsiniteslostitunderPresidentBush.

ThispresidenthasturnedhisbackonthewellnessofAmerica.Andthereisnosystem.Infact,it'sstartingtofallapartnotbecauseoflawsuits--thoughtheyareaproblem,andJohnEdwardsandIarecommittedtofixingthem--butbecauseofthelargerissuethatwedon'tcoverAmericans.

Childrenacrossourcountrydon'thavehealthcare.We'retherichestcountryonthefaceoftheplanet,theonlyindustrializednationintheworldnottodoit.

IhaveaplantocoverallAmericans.We'regoingtomakeitaffordableandaccessible.We'regoingtoleteverybodybuyintothesamehealth-careplansenatorsandcongressmengivethemselves.

SCHIEFFER:

Mr.President,wouldyouliketoaddsomething?

BUSH:

Iwould.Thankyou.

Iwanttore